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Isabella's avatar

I finished part II at the beginning of this week, and reading your notes, I so strongly agree with your comment on what Gala wrote, that everyone of us gets something different out of the book .

I said before, that Malina feels almost dreamlike for me, and although the second chapter is extremly dreamlike, I had the impression, we come very close to the real I behind the story, Ingeborg herself.

Ingeborg Bachmann was born 1926 and a Teenager during the III. Reich and second world war. My idea is, the second chapter is her way of processing with all the terrible things happening in those times. The father is not just her father is the whole father-generation that made Hitler and facism possible. It's also a time that shapped Ingeborg, that shapped her way of beeing and writing, so this is impersonated in the child with her father?

After I read your thoughts, Sophie, I find it interesting, that I didn't made the connection to the, third man movie at all, although I know it. Mayby because I grew up in Germany and Facism and the 3. Reich are themes we deal a lot with to this day. There is still a lot of shame and unsureness about it in our society and a lot of guilt. I wonder how Ingeborg Bachmann felt and thought about it. While reading the second chapter I also had the idea, that Malina here stands for Bachmanns long-time partner Max Frisch. He was born and raised in the switzerland, in a neutral country, he was not a nazi and he didn't fought in the war. So he kind of was a neutral spectator, like malina is for the narrator. She comes to him with her dreams and he helps her deal with them.

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Nicola's avatar

Just wanted to comment and say I started the book then got waylaid with travelling. I’m looking forward to starting it back up and referring to your notes & everyone’s comments! Excited for this book club ongoing, too. It’s off to a great start, Sophie 👏🏼

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